Hello clever. so after zdohnut Mona. Ali stuck in the astral. I wonder what he thinks Patrushev about writers improvised sessions. Patrushev at least I believe, probably because with a mustache. But your photo traveler I don't look. And suddenly you're Satan. virtual - it is dangerous, you never know what happens.
Waiting for recommendations Patrushev
Homemade session
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Nobody argues.Сталкер 1 wrote:Hello clever. so after zdohnut Mona. Ali stuck in the astral.
Don't knowI Wonder what he thinks Patrushev about writers improvised sessions.
Patrushev at least I believe, probably because with a mustache.
Probably
And will not be visible.But your photo traveler I don't look.
Also true. Anything can happen.And suddenly you're Satan. virtual - it is dangerous, you never know what happens.
...wait...Waiting for recommendations Patrushev
the Traveler
What should I do? To begin to enter into a trial period. Depressed, scary movies? Or wait (what actually)?
I'm excited about the opportunity to attract unwanted attention all won. In the Church to run I don't want, especially not think this is the correct exit from the situation.
That would be cool if the monk himself. M. the rainbow was my astral security. It is big and good
Kidding
What should I do? To begin to enter into a trial period. Depressed, scary movies? Or wait (what actually)?
I'm excited about the opportunity to attract unwanted attention all won. In the Church to run I don't want, especially not think this is the correct exit from the situation.
That would be cool if the monk himself. M. the rainbow was my astral security. It is big and good
Kidding
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the Traveler Tell me how you can get stuck in the astral plane? che in real life.
Want to know how long have you been involved with a MM, what experience, what else can we do, what be able what made these sessions? After all, just to fill the numbers for the session will do nothing. The idea you described in the beginning of the topic about the library what it is all astral, and the type of theta.
The astral is a separate issue, very strange and deep.
Today I again tried the your session of 16 minutes. Like heart rate, I am somehow reassured. I understand that it is not necessary to concentrate on it, to let go of consciousness and drift, only to wait. And tried as suggest methods about the astral plane, to represent the rotation, che something like that a little bit experienced.
I'm trying to sessions of self-hypnosis autotrening to avoid adverse reactions, such as tingling or numbness.
Tried different images and beliefs. If it hurts somewhere I keep telling myself it should be, it's not mine, it's far, flies removed.One replaced by another feeling. Or the image of the division of physical sensations from consciousness.
by the way, these are my methods rather than just lie and listen to the session-wait for th next.
Tell me, is it possible to increase the duration of the session LucidDream more Cham 31 min.? What will happen if you increase?
Want to know how long have you been involved with a MM, what experience, what else can we do, what be able what made these sessions? After all, just to fill the numbers for the session will do nothing. The idea you described in the beginning of the topic about the library what it is all astral, and the type of theta.
The astral is a separate issue, very strange and deep.
Today I again tried the your session of 16 minutes. Like heart rate, I am somehow reassured. I understand that it is not necessary to concentrate on it, to let go of consciousness and drift, only to wait. And tried as suggest methods about the astral plane, to represent the rotation, che something like that a little bit experienced.
I'm trying to sessions of self-hypnosis autotrening to avoid adverse reactions, such as tingling or numbness.
Tried different images and beliefs. If it hurts somewhere I keep telling myself it should be, it's not mine, it's far, flies removed.One replaced by another feeling. Or the image of the division of physical sensations from consciousness.
by the way, these are my methods rather than just lie and listen to the session-wait for th next.
Tell me, is it possible to increase the duration of the session LucidDream more Cham 31 min.? What will happen if you increase?
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Well, anything is possible. You can probably get lost, if you really, really want... or if very unlucky. The probability of such an outcome as close as possible to zero. I was in the Wasps and in the Astral have been in a situation when I already thought that out. As you can see out.Стас24 wrote:Tell me how you can get stuck in the astral plane?
MM are engaged about 1.5 years, before that it was already several years experience with different software counterparts. Session wrote based on experience. It's not just numbers. They have been tested many times. Wasps and Astral are interested in since they first came into my life for about 7.5 years.I Want to know how long have you been involved with a MM, what experience, what else can we do, what be able what made these sessions? After all, just to fill the numbers for the session will do nothing.
I'm trying to sessions of self-hypnosis autotrening to avoid adverse reactions, such as tingling or numbness.
Tried different images and beliefs. If it hurts somewhere I keep telling myself it should be, it's not mine, it's far, flies removed.One replaced by another feeling. Or the image of the division of physical sensations from consciousness.
by the way, these are my methods rather than just lie and listen to the session-wait for th next.
Lie without direction thoughts on anything specific would be much more correct. While listening to wait for anything and do not, it will manifest itself later. To listen to just before bedtime. Volume comfortable, close to the quiet. Afford not to bother and to relax, you can even doze off while listening. the Effect is not while listening, and a little later. Usually during sleep or in proselochnoy condition.
To increase the length do not recommend, just drop the efficiency. Shorten is also not necessary, it is better to remove the glasses with headphones if tired, tired, or just not myself.<Tell me, is it possible to increase the duration of the session LucidDream more Cham 31 min.? What will happen if you increase?
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No the cylinders did not try. Sometimes at night I sit on the bed with her legs crossed and listen to the world, own body and looking through the eyelids, not giving priotity anything specific. This kind of deconcentration. Helps. Sometimes lying down helps to imagine the ripple at the frequency of ~4Hz and keep the rhythm. Often just lie motionless and look through the eyelids, sometimes for a long time.
Wow, tried it yesterday night. Now once you start listening session from jumps adrenaline and heartbeat. Does not proceed. Tried the Board output, I'm afraid terribly afraid finally these experiments.
I read yesterday, "Astral travel for beginners" the author Richard Webster. Oh scary it all was. Damn silver thread, you can move to other rooms, to peep, even to move objects, some people can see your asters. body. The first way not to do your room. By the way, you Can see demons and abominations. The astral plane is full of them.
I remember the experience of the OS and Loss of consciousness. In one other case, it will descend as if above the head with the opening. As the attic. In the first case, in the OS, it was a city. As soon as I saw in the hangar of his family, I thought let me perekladu (autumn cross) What do you think happened. For spins horrible roar,to raise his hand hard, the Images disappeared. I Person not seen. I ran to the stairs to the top, where I climbed as quickly as possible, as I've pursued that. Abomination is terrible. Shadow, no face, only the outlines of hooves and a terrible roar. So I got out of sleep! But loss of consciousness brought a strange way on prekrasnay meadow. So I started from the top down, as it were, gained weight, although it was surprisingly easy.
The meadow and everywhere sound, some music, a song whose don't know, but very pleasant. When I began to revive, I became weightless again to climb up into the fog.
I think all these rolling down the stairs - it was out of body...
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Now going to bed, I unwittingly thought about the astral plane itself and immediately heart started pounding as during the session. Frustrating!
I said I don't want in the astral, only to sleep. The heartbeat stopped...
I read yesterday, "Astral travel for beginners" the author Richard Webster. Oh scary it all was. Damn silver thread, you can move to other rooms, to peep, even to move objects, some people can see your asters. body. The first way not to do your room. By the way, you Can see demons and abominations. The astral plane is full of them.
I remember the experience of the OS and Loss of consciousness. In one other case, it will descend as if above the head with the opening. As the attic. In the first case, in the OS, it was a city. As soon as I saw in the hangar of his family, I thought let me perekladu (autumn cross) What do you think happened. For spins horrible roar,to raise his hand hard, the Images disappeared. I Person not seen. I ran to the stairs to the top, where I climbed as quickly as possible, as I've pursued that. Abomination is terrible. Shadow, no face, only the outlines of hooves and a terrible roar. So I got out of sleep! But loss of consciousness brought a strange way on prekrasnay meadow. So I started from the top down, as it were, gained weight, although it was surprisingly easy.
The meadow and everywhere sound, some music, a song whose don't know, but very pleasant. When I began to revive, I became weightless again to climb up into the fog.
I think all these rolling down the stairs - it was out of body...
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Now going to bed, I unwittingly thought about the astral plane itself and immediately heart started pounding as during the session. Frustrating!
I said I don't want in the astral, only to sleep. The heartbeat stopped...
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about the protection in the astral:
1. protects some simple pectoral cross
2. all sorts of amulets and talismans, for example there is special protective runes
3. white light... before bed, I obvalakivayut yourself with a mist of white sparkling light
anyone that helps sometimes helps to prayer.... the fear of facing all sorts of astral creatures-monsters leads to the fact that you get to the lower layers and they're really found
for example, my astral deserted.... I am meeting no one.... very rarely see any entities but they are friendly.... very rarely... for the past six months never
1. protects some simple pectoral cross
2. all sorts of amulets and talismans, for example there is special protective runes
3. white light... before bed, I obvalakivayut yourself with a mist of white sparkling light
anyone that helps sometimes helps to prayer.... the fear of facing all sorts of astral creatures-monsters leads to the fact that you get to the lower layers and they're really found
for example, my astral deserted.... I am meeting no one.... very rarely see any entities but they are friendly.... very rarely... for the past six months never
Through the day session on 31 minutes. Oh something like gone. The heartbeat is not irritate, numbness and immobility also not annoying. I have just increases the power of expectations.
During the session I was trying to get out. Represented the circle of light on his forehead. It is the center of it I will go out and say "I'm out, I'm ready to go to the astral plane" as soon As imagined out of his forehead is bright white tape light, immediately instantly Ahmatova numbness, cold, tension, and goose skin. Bud's body was a breeze, and in the brain ARKA a flash of white light. After a moment, the tape is again drawn back and all the feelings were gone. I tried 10 times. Did not come out. I even set a goal to Inspect the room and re-enter the physical body. While waiting there were instant images from movies. Suzhet unrelated to me.
Yesterday I tried for the night. 15 minutes. There was a sense of loneliness.
During the entire session, I retain consciousness, not asleep.
I don't know whether to switch to the second session?
I read that you can pesedit different places, such as your past e.g. childhood. I wonder, is it possible? I what if a kid had a cat and I will appear at the time and the cat will notice me? Really all that or the product of a sick imagination of the brain, like hypnotic regression.
Going forward Tell me, you wrote that podavlyaet output, so you have learned how to go out or not?
I have only one goal - to visit places of the past, not the future, people's apartments and not to mention and other worlds...
How to see the world in the astral? The same color, and bright or not, as in a dream, dark and weird. That is possible in the astral plane to do?
Well, for example, is it possible to recall past forgotten knowledge, like school or a foreign language? The way memory works in the astral, that kzhe and in the physical body that I remember what I forgot. Almost all or even remember those moments I forgot.
During the session I was trying to get out. Represented the circle of light on his forehead. It is the center of it I will go out and say "I'm out, I'm ready to go to the astral plane" as soon As imagined out of his forehead is bright white tape light, immediately instantly Ahmatova numbness, cold, tension, and goose skin. Bud's body was a breeze, and in the brain ARKA a flash of white light. After a moment, the tape is again drawn back and all the feelings were gone. I tried 10 times. Did not come out. I even set a goal to Inspect the room and re-enter the physical body. While waiting there were instant images from movies. Suzhet unrelated to me.
Yesterday I tried for the night. 15 minutes. There was a sense of loneliness.
During the entire session, I retain consciousness, not asleep.
I don't know whether to switch to the second session?
I read that you can pesedit different places, such as your past e.g. childhood. I wonder, is it possible? I what if a kid had a cat and I will appear at the time and the cat will notice me? Really all that or the product of a sick imagination of the brain, like hypnotic regression.
Going forward Tell me, you wrote that podavlyaet output, so you have learned how to go out or not?
I have only one goal - to visit places of the past, not the future, people's apartments and not to mention and other worlds...
How to see the world in the astral? The same color, and bright or not, as in a dream, dark and weird. That is possible in the astral plane to do?
Well, for example, is it possible to recall past forgotten knowledge, like school or a foreign language? The way memory works in the astral, that kzhe and in the physical body that I remember what I forgot. Almost all or even remember those moments I forgot.
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I already wrote more than once that at a certain stage of relaxation in the body appear different distractions feeling very well and getting to hear your heart. This does not mean that the heart begins to pound as something stronger. Even from Your measurements that You are at rest. For the average person 116/59 - great pressure, 69 - reduced heart rate (normal is 72, if You are a great athlete). This stage just need to go, not bothered.Стас24 wrote:Today was 31 minutes of the first level.
First impression... very very strange.
Going forward wrote here that starts the heart pounding and pounding!
I thought only I have this. After the session, heart oddly thumping about 45 minutes or about an hour. Bud, I was waiting for something, scolded me, or do I have a fight with someone close to you. I measured blood pressure and pulse (and pulse 116/59 69). This is the only unpleasant feeling which prevents in General to achieve something, type exit to other dimensions
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I have had some outputs in literally 5-7 seconds... like in twilight falls... the effort will Crouch back into the body.... honestly I'm AFRAID to MOVE ON
when in reality there is an ability to concentrate may be it is possible but the concentration should be the limiting
I even at some object barely concentrate - 15 minutes max....
the answers to all these questions are herehttp://aing.EN/for/
is lucid dreaming - the identity of the astral.... and dreams is to identity the astral plane is another world and all we get every night when you sleepИдущая вперед wrote:for example, my astral deserted.... I am meeting no one.... very rarely see any entities but they are friendly.... very rarely... for the past six months never
Michael Raduga certainly knows how to do it...Стас24 wrote:I Have only one goal - to visit places of the past, not the future, people's apartments and not to mention and other worlds...
when in reality there is an ability to concentrate may be it is possible but the concentration should be the limiting
I even at some object barely concentrate - 15 minutes max....
the answers to all these questions are herehttp://aing.EN/for/
Andrei Patrushev What would you recommend for skills output? Can you have any such sessions, and probably you were doing?
I'll continue with the next session LucidDream see what happens.
About a heartbeat I almost forgot, depending on what result I'm expecting. When I paid attention to bodily sensations at once attention was drawn to the heart and breathing once more on the vibration and numbness, everything else disappeared.
Andrei Patrushev as your opinion about astral, it is real, and all the experiences they have with soil, not dangerous is it?
I'll continue with the next session LucidDream see what happens.
About a heartbeat I almost forgot, depending on what result I'm expecting. When I paid attention to bodily sensations at once attention was drawn to the heart and breathing once more on the vibration and numbness, everything else disappeared.
Andrei Patrushev as your opinion about astral, it is real, and all the experiences they have with soil, not dangerous is it?
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Стас24 wrote:Andrei Patrushev What would you recommend for skills output? Can you have any such sessions, and probably you were doing?
honestly, I don't like the theme of mapping machin and astral. So the advice I give will not be. This topic attracts too many "guards" (God forbid - nothing personal
I'll continue with the next session LucidDream see what happens.
About a heartbeat I almost forgot, depending on what result I'm expecting. When I paid attention to bodily sensations at once attention was drawn to the heart and breathing once more on the vibration and numbness, everything else disappeared.
Andrei Patrushev as your opinion about astral, it is real, and all the experiences they have with soil, not dangerous is it?
When I'm "that" worried, "it" really, when I'm about "this" I think" that's not real... Except your own fear in this life have nothing to fear...
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Hurt yourself using mindmachine very difficult, but through their own fears quite real...Сталкер 1 wrote:Hello clever. so after zdohnut Mona. Ali stuck in the astral. I wonder what he thinks Patrushev about writers improvised sessions. Patrushev at least I believe, probably because with a mustache. But your photo traveler I don't look. And suddenly you're Satan. virtual - it is dangerous, you never know what happens.
Waiting for recommendations Patrushev
It's funny that the last session of the Traveler about exactly ACC. the sessions that I've quit Smoking... and at the same time learn to fall asleep w/o any light sleep pills...
Funny, not least that although the foregoing objectives have been achieved, no WTO/OBE *I* was not-as I am about such phenomenon already knew, and, resp., perhaps because he was (among others) set -- "I don't need it".
In General, session is not terrible. And it is unlikely that the Traveler is "Satan". Another thing is that since this kind of sessions (not with "Massage brain", for example) is required (as I now understand), some great effort and preparation-to start, for example, *ability to relax*. In principle, one method described in the text Monroe-Wave-Focus10. There are more others. Outline the memory is not taken -- it would be great if the AP stated it here -- at least, for example, as the Appendix to the "Guide" (e.g. the feeling of "warming" relax parts of the body (mentioned in the "Guide") -- a very important part of the "initial" level, but below this once and for all to develop, normally and not without success, turn to everyday examples-from the warm shaving cream to the pan with the potatoes and steam). And not only.
And "you" - if *for me* the alpha session of the arterial tension reduced, the theta-an average increase. Not too much, according to Ms. the stress at work, for example, and not for long. This is the question about some of the above dejatelnostj.
Funny, not least that although the foregoing objectives have been achieved, no WTO/OBE *I* was not-as I am about such phenomenon already knew, and, resp., perhaps because he was (among others) set -- "I don't need it".
In General, session is not terrible. And it is unlikely that the Traveler is "Satan". Another thing is that since this kind of sessions (not with "Massage brain", for example) is required (as I now understand), some great effort and preparation-to start, for example, *ability to relax*. In principle, one method described in the text Monroe-Wave-Focus10. There are more others. Outline the memory is not taken -- it would be great if the AP stated it here -- at least, for example, as the Appendix to the "Guide" (e.g. the feeling of "warming" relax parts of the body (mentioned in the "Guide") -- a very important part of the "initial" level, but below this once and for all to develop, normally and not without success, turn to everyday examples-from the warm shaving cream to the pan with the potatoes and steam). And not only.
And "you" - if *for me* the alpha session of the arterial tension reduced, the theta-an average increase. Not too much, according to Ms. the stress at work, for example, and not for long. This is the question about some of the above dejatelnostj.
So I began to notice that the session LucidDream stopped deistvovat since the beginning! Heart work quietly, thoughts as it is hard to hold. Generally sleepy. And vospolenie can't see... no way.
You may need to set a goal and think only of her?
Maybe I developed an immunity to the session?
Put the morning, listening to kept consciousness, preparing for the feeling type serdzebienie and pins and needles. After several attempts, thoughts flew and consciousness for a moment went into oblivion. After it seemed that the session runs too long, there was a feeling that tired, no effects, on the contrary something I wanted to take the headphones off and I could sleep
You may need to set a goal and think only of her?
Maybe I developed an immunity to the session?
Put the morning, listening to kept consciousness, preparing for the feeling type serdzebienie and pins and needles. After several attempts, thoughts flew and consciousness for a moment went into oblivion. After it seemed that the session runs too long, there was a feeling that tired, no effects, on the contrary something I wanted to take the headphones off and I could sleep
Today persecutor session LucidDream on InnerPuls.
At 12.10 began to listen. Tried to retain consciousness, to represent the movement of the phantom arm, leg, head... a Few seconds, maybe 2 minutes I was done and then not remember what happened.... No palpitations, chills and whatever else. After 20 minutes I again regained consciousness and realized that she should viglucci session and to sleep thoroughly, which he did (slept about 2.5 hours).
I liked the session sonordosieroj! Don't know about the Astral plane and out but it was at first, I even looked it up online info on the astral plane, and now this. Bummer. Session and Vice versa lulls the mind that it is more suitable for insomnia, I recommend
Again I would like to hear the Council's opinion and Andrei Patrushev Why the session is designed for exit to OS or astral began to act after a few sessions useplease, the action is directly opposite to the primary.
At 12.10 began to listen. Tried to retain consciousness, to represent the movement of the phantom arm, leg, head... a Few seconds, maybe 2 minutes I was done and then not remember what happened.... No palpitations, chills and whatever else. After 20 minutes I again regained consciousness and realized that she should viglucci session and to sleep thoroughly, which he did (slept about 2.5 hours).
I liked the session sonordosieroj! Don't know about the Astral plane and out but it was at first, I even looked it up online info on the astral plane, and now this. Bummer. Session and Vice versa lulls the mind that it is more suitable for insomnia, I recommend
Again I would like to hear the Council's opinion and Andrei Patrushev Why the session is designed for exit to OS or astral began to act after a few sessions useplease, the action is directly opposite to the primary.
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Because it's not done right (in the sense of not following the rules).Стас24 wrote:Today persecutor session LucidDream on InnerPuls.
At 12.10 began to listen. Tried to retain consciousness, to represent the movement of the phantom arm, leg, head... a Few seconds, maybe 2 minutes I was done and then not remember what happened.... No palpitations, chills and whatever else. After 20 minutes I again regained consciousness and realized that she should viglucci session and to sleep thoroughly, which he did (slept about 2.5 hours).
I liked the session sonordosieroj! Don't know about the Astral plane and out but it was at first, I even looked it up online info on the astral plane, and now this. Bummer. Session and Vice versa lulls the mind that it is more suitable for insomnia, I recommend
Again I would like to hear the Council's opinion and Andrei Patrushev Why the session is designed for exit to OS or astral began to act after a few sessions useplease, the action is directly opposite to the primary.
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Стас24 wrote:Why the session is designed for exit to OS or astral began to act after a few sessions useplease, the effect is the opposite of primary.
StasSession is working correctly. In order to learn how such things as OS and AP, you must learn to stay awake in the theta state. You again are completely in the wrong direction. No need for any manipulation of the imagined body, the astral body has nothing to do with it. Secondly, while listening to think about anything concrete is generally not desirable, and so hard to make a suggestion even more. Listen to these sessions as "hypnotics", but to monitor the state - a better approach. And finally, we should not expect too quick results, especially immediate.Андрей Патрушев wrote:Because it is not done right (in the sense of not following the rules)
Andrei Patrushevwhat is the rules? Some proportion (Golden ratio?)? "Swing" frequency in range? Please be more specific
. I created these sessions so that the listener has learned gradually to a state with dominant theta activity. Back out in the other modes, on the basis of specific sessions is not required.
Andrew Petrusha how to say say, right
You session was looking for LSD?
the Traveler I don't want anything, but me the effect was surprised. I told you some time all the negative symptoms disappeared, replaced by soporific consciousness - well, just "shovel head".
How to track the status and does not fly? There is some stuff in the Internal dialogue. As soon as he disappears everything... takes a pass.
Of course I was expecting faster reactions, because with Theta Improv do (no nightmares), it's supposed to mean something?
Yes I failed to mention another point. I tried several times to do not in the supine position. Here interesting.
I don't pass out. As in a sitting position it is hard to keep the neck turned out, either she fell or leaned back, you need some kind of stand.
In the unusual provisions for falling asleep listening to this session I eligible.
There is a sense of mild technote, Bud you before it was twisted on one place (there is such trenear). And then a strange feeling of whirling in the head.
You session was looking for LSD?
the Traveler I don't want anything, but me the effect was surprised. I told you some time all the negative symptoms disappeared, replaced by soporific consciousness - well, just "shovel head".
How to track the status and does not fly? There is some stuff in the Internal dialogue. As soon as he disappears everything... takes a pass.
Of course I was expecting faster reactions, because with Theta Improv do (no nightmares), it's supposed to mean something?
Yes I failed to mention another point. I tried several times to do not in the supine position. Here interesting.
I don't pass out. As in a sitting position it is hard to keep the neck turned out, either she fell or leaned back, you need some kind of stand.
In the unusual provisions for falling asleep listening to this session I eligible.
There is a sense of mild technote, Bud you before it was twisted on one place (there is such trenear). And then a strange feeling of whirling in the head.