Is increased radiation from the power supply?

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Is increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Эмилия » Fri Jan 08, 2016 17:54

Hello, dear experts! Tell me, please, is the increased Em background from the power supply Gpon terminal? (via a terminal connected to a home telephone to fiber coupler). From this BP for the Am receiver are very strong interference, but does this mean radiation? Wi Fi we have disconnected socket without grounding. But maybe for such a small source, such as a terminal, it does not matter? On the power supply written input 100-240V 0.5 A output 12V 1.5 A Photo of the terminal and the power supply attached. The question is very worried, because earlier (before I noticed this noise on the receiver from the block) a small child is often a very close match to that block, played next. worried if this is dangerous from the point of view of electromagnetic fields. I would be very grateful for advice!

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Jan 08, 2016 18:27

If you live in the city, around you weight fields from cell towers, broadcast radio and TV stations, GPS satellites, neighborhood Wi Fi, electrical appliances, wiring, etc., the Deposit 12 volt power supply in this case is negligible.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Эмилия » Fri Jan 08, 2016 18:35

Андрей Кабанков wrote:If you live in the city, around you weight fields from cell towers, broadcast radio and TV stations, GPS satellites, neighborhood Wi Fi, electrical appliances, wiring, etc., the Deposit 12 volt power supply in this case is negligible.
That is, even in the vicinity of this unit do not have strong radiation?

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Jan 08, 2016 18:59

The PSU is not dangerous.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Эмилия » Fri Jan 08, 2016 19:01

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Such a power supply is not dangerous.
Thank you! And with what device can you compare the radiation of this block?

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Jan 08, 2016 19:12

How about charger for aypeda or laptop.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Эмилия » Fri Jan 08, 2016 19:17

Андрей Кабанков wrote:how About charger for aypeda or laptop.
But does that mean that, if charging from a laptop less noise, and it emits less? Or the presence of noise not directly related to the level of radiation?

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Fri Jan 08, 2016 20:51

If the roof of your house is the line of the transmission line, the neighborhood is a transformer the size of two refrigerators, that your life is not in danger.
Electromangetic smog will surround you everywhere in places of human habitation. And power supplies for household appliances here is not the most significant. For protection from electromagnetic smog has the goods http://www.mindmachine.ru/emf/ and http://www.mindmachine.ru/qlink/index.htm

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by мимоходом » Fri Jan 08, 2016 21:46

Almost every electric device, such as TV, fridge or a blender similar power supplies. Electromagnetism is everywhere, good or bad is unclear - probably until the current in the outlet is not responsible or the information component and there are pure sine wave, then fine. But if suddenly on the mains waveform probablyout information of any kind, such as audio - so it will be possible pervasive brainwashing...

Themselves on their own power supplies such as light bulbs dangerous (it also produces the strongest electromagnetic radiation, called light)

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by к-13 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 23:54

Андрей Кабанков wrote:If over the roof of your house is the line of the transmission line, the neighborhood is a transformer the size of two refrigerators, that your life is not in danger.
And even if it is, but You're not going to do it with bare hands and with wet feet, too))) to Your life something zaprosili, then either the voltage must be several orders of magnitude higher, or the frequency of a billion times higher (at least). That I as engineer of telecommunication, familiar with the materials of long-term studies on human exposure to electromagnetic fields authoritatively declare. All these electromagnetic fields, besides, no comparison in strength do not go with the natural magnetic field of the Earth and especially the fact that reaches us from the Sun after coronary emissions.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by нева » Sat Jan 09, 2016 0:05

к-13 wrote: to Your life something zaprosili, then either the voltage must be several orders of magnitude higher, or the frequency of a billion times higher (at least).
However, something like this, argued one woman, whose workplace at the office was located almost tight to the back side of the large ancient monitor, almost like the headrest, had to cut out all of the thyroid, and when after the operation, quit a year a new employee ..also cut out my thyroid, and then the chief called the security service labour, where he said, you do something you are crazy..)) by the Way this woman is now in the protection of labour works..)
And another young man, loved to indulge in the obtaining and collecting of diplomas, for distant communication, in particular with America, in korotkometrazhka range, beautiful graphics have been drawing from the ionosphere, the signal is reflected, good the amplifier is assembled, and quickly and quietly went bald at the age of unnam..and frequency in kilohertz even)) and all ..a hundred watts. It is now rarely indulges in such connection, all the gigahertz submit.) And the ham..was shown a transmitter circuit in one bad lamp 1GHz(just) and polwatta, but collect not dare because he wanted to become a man. Because the leader team in the house of pioneers, explain the popularity of the bald teenager, with such frequency, regardless of AC power, it is better not to experiment.)
к-13 wrote: with the materials of long-term studies on human exposure to electromagnetic fields
now, Yes, scientists have proven that this is not harmful..and so now almost every apartment moschny magnetron operates just because of laziness in the pan to cook.)

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by мимоходом » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:12

Incidentally, in the parallel topics kacheri and collect all sorts of different high-powered devices to obtain the "orgone". Get strong EM-field, which at the beginning of his study called Organum or ether. Here is a likely danger may be, about the electricity mankind knows almost nothing.

But here mainly the question of power of the device - how much power transferred when the current conversion is EM-field. If the power of the electromagnetic radiation is small, as in the ordinary power supply and the field size is small, its density decreases proportionally to the square of the distance. That is, the power supply can be dangerous if it to press flush against the body, for example, in other cases, safe.

On the other hand a simple mobile phone... When it goes to the dialer, the power of the EM field such that light specials. the led is simply attached to its rear side. That is the power of the field somewhere in the 10mW and the phone close to the ear or to the body or some on the chest wear is not very useful. Maybe I'll find out what it is

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by к-13 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 15:12

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к-13 wrote: to Your life something zaprosili, then either the voltage must be several orders of magnitude higher, or the frequency of a billion times higher (at least).
However, something like this, argued one woman, whose workplace at the office was located almost tight to the back side of the large ancient monitor, almost like the headrest, had to cut out all of the thyroid, and when after the operation, quit a year a new employee ..also cut out my thyroid, and then the chief called the security service labour, where he said, you do something you are crazy..)) by the Way this woman is now in the protection of labour works..)
Did You know that after advocacy with victims in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (about the dangers of radiation and radiation sickness) number of manifestations of the latter instantly rose to order. You can, of course, be attributed to the fact that some people didn't pay attention before they jabbed a finger... And such examples in psychology textbooks hundreds (for example - students the urn in the shape of paws of Rhino footprints from lake water intake urge - residents complain that the water smells like a rhinoceros, and the number LCD of the disorders at the local clinic has experienced unprecedented growth). And thyroid the most susceptible to the promptings of the body, so it could not be the ancient monitor in the headrest, and, for example, in the cleaner of the Manet woman who was distressed about the dangers of this job, each time rubbing the floors there - she is seen on TV and in the tabloid "science" I read (in the article in the news about flying saucers and the Yeti, on the page the irrefutable data), and in General, Petrovich her was talking on a blue eye, and he is an electrician at the General store, knows better than all sorts of professorov...
And another young man, loved to indulge in the obtaining and collecting of diplomas, for distant communication, in particular with America, in korotkometrazhka range, beautiful graphics have been drawing from the ionosphere, the signal is reflected, good the amplifier is assembled, and quickly and quietly went bald at the age of unnam..and frequency in kilohertz even)) and all ..a hundred watts. It is now rarely indulges in such connection, all the gigahertz submit.) And the ham..was shown a transmitter circuit in one bad lamp 1GHz(just) and polwatta, but collect not dare because he wanted to become a man. Because the leader team in the house of pioneers, explain the popularity of the bald teenager, with such frequency, regardless of AC power, it is better not to experiment.)
You can experiment only when you know what you're dealing with - maybe he unfolded the antenna field so that the peak field strength had not in the main lobe of the radiation pattern, and at his working place? Incidentally, he could unknowingly take such a place by himself, feeling at this moment unusual, unaccustomed, it is possible for a state of elation to take.
We have the fourth chair is still in the Union prizes held in the number of correspondents around the world over a period of time, just tropospherical worked, charged to a high power transmitter R-100 located directly on the roof of the academic building (on the roof of another was the local television stations that broadcast 4 channels) - Yuri Bortnevskiy, lecturer and chief radiosporten, all life was engaged and continued to work after retirement (eight years before I went to study) - he's in his 60's looked and felt better than many sorokoletya, nothing about the KV-range (incidentally, he is also in megahertz is) do not know.
I personally have 8 years in the signal corps stint - and R-159 back dragged medesimi, and slept for months in operating radio relay Shelters (warm there in the winter from the equipment employed), and the scorched grass is seen where a plate of tropospheric communication petal days its cling, and incandescent bulbs on a piece of wire, strung on a stick and flashing to the beat of Telegraph next to a station of average power without any power - ten years already passed, all in complete order, and hair in order, and all of their teeth, and was sick for the last time in school, I guess.
So there is also an example for the masses of cause and effect are not always exactly as you see them in the mass.
Anecdote on the subject:
Drank brandy, then beer, then vodka and finally shlifanuli champagne - everything was perfect, and then, wow, the cookie falling out.
к-13 wrote: with the materials of long-term studies on human exposure to electromagnetic fields
now, Yes, scientists have proven that this is not harmful..and so now almost every apartment moschny magnetron operates just because of laziness in the pan to cook.)
Well, the magnetron-it is shielded by the grid cell does not transmit the operating frequency))) in addition, the emitters he directed and focused inside the chamber. If you head in there and not to poke, the danger is not lower than that of iron (which is difficult to do without modernization of the design - the open door breaks the circuit and in a closed microwave oven can put my head only separating it from the body, and in this case, the cause of death are not electromagnetic waves).
But, gentlemen, the more paranoid you cell phones use? In the same gigahertz, and the power of polwatta - enough to provide radio communication within a radius of 12-18 km, and not natural (analog) signals and modulation EMV, and the discrete frequency stuff and phase offsets to increase the number of simultaneously talking on the same frequency! Working on sound equipment nor the most bad monitor, no microwave does not have any effect, but cell phone when you connect can and to cut the most sensitive scheme - it is in the speakers-then just say hi to you)))

Volaemia man enough cardboard box to put on the skin, saying that it was a white-hot coin, so he felt the pain and even got a burn. If the tablet of chalk and sugar are able to heal with proper information training, then why are you all antiplatele actively hang?
And now more about genetic modification will start a conversation is terribly harmful, dangerous, and we die out like dinosaurs... And no one will remember after all that all life on Earth is the result of continuous mutations and genetic modifications... believe me - before disfigured the nature of the primary virus, which originated in antiquity in the soup of inorganic substances, resulting in him mutated all known and unknown plants and animals, even the most crazy scientific genius as far as the cochlea to the North star.
Be adequate, do not dial in the picture of the world of unnecessary things - believe in good, kind and bright :)<

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by мимоходом » Sat Jan 09, 2016 22:03

And no one will remember after all that all life on Earth is the result of continuous mutations and genetic modifications...
Do not belong to the supporters of opponents of the "terrible genetic experiments" and "anti-human inoculations". Just then about mutations is thought that they are not entirely chaotic was in evolution. Or rather not chaotic, this mechanism by the way Darwin himself could not understand, despite the fact that noticed right regularities. There mathematically if you calculate it at quite regular formulas the second course of a technical College - you will get the probability that is less than the number of atoms in the entire universe, and less in many orders of magnitude, these numbers generally difficult to imagine.

But the paradox is resolved if we accept that mutations are not chaotic and is deterministic and produces a valid information field, for example living beings, the Earth and the Sun. Well, the way the mechanism is the same - electromagnetism. Here the sun spits flares, people have a headache, rastitelnosti appears, the adrenaline out of nowhere And flash is actually one of the levers of the evolutionary process. Well, as an alternative, quite plausible.

Here... And the fact that people decided to replace their creators and to shape the evolution... It's beautiful, so grown out of pants, he is trying to create... But then there's a second caveat - 5% of DNA codes for amino acids. Another 10% code the sequence of amino acids, with the code written directly on top of the first code. The rest is unclear what is doing and perhaps there's another layer on top of the DNA code is the first two. And another one on top of the previous. And the genetic modifications take into account only the first layer code - the production of amino acids. In General, the genetics of people figured out about the same as with electricity, while almost any way.

Well, that is, the difference is still there: a) directed the development of life by the overmind relatively speaking, and a complicated device this life b) copy-paste code person from one place one program into an arbitrary place in another programme.<

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by АндрейКо » Sun Jan 10, 2016 0:48

к-13 wrote:And thyroid the most susceptible to the promptings of the body
Is there someplace I can read?
(I have to start using BJ was knots up to 11 mm per year of steel up to 5 mm, and the year was gone... the doctors when they said - laughed :) )

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by к-13 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:06

passingwe're talking about the ingestion of complex organic protein, right?)))

andreykothe Internet :? I'm just not one time encountered a scientific research about thyroid. In the study a placebo, the study suggestions in statistical studies of such things as the evil eye and spoilage.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by нева » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:16

к-13 wrote:Well, the magnetron-it is shielded by the grid cell does not transmit the operating frequency)))
It is clear that reducing the mesh a bit. About shielding;- can be put in the microwave, the cell phone, shut it down not including..) and call on him, if he rings..does the term "shielding" does not fit. And I do not even know whether there are people in Russia who are grounded microwave..)) And without grounding, the iron box podnebenny close to the antenna-transmitter though..and takes over and reduces power, but itself becomes an antenna.))
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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by нева » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:30

к-13 wrote: what we're dealing with - maybe he unfolded the antenna field so that the peak field strength had not in the main lobe of the radiation pattern, and at his working place? Incidentally, he could unknowingly take such a place by himself, feeling at this moment unusual, unaccustomed, it is possible for a state of elation to take.
..) just bulb with coils to close had, and he's often the relay contacts, welded to each other, and it helped a small screw driver to unstick them..therefore the housing cover is completely out of the way..)) and neonka at it(in hand) shone in the half meter from the amplifier..such a small ionizing radiation..)) And the antenna itself he was he was super. Horizontal Delta almost equilateral with sides of 150 meters. between three nine-stretched(pulled by the winch.), HAARP is resting...))
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Post by Эмилия » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:57

нева wrote:
к-13 wrote: what we're dealing with - maybe he unfolded the antenna field so that the peak field strength had not in the main lobe of the radiation pattern, and at his working place? Incidentally, he could unknowingly take such a place by himself, feeling at this moment unusual, unaccustomed, it is possible for a state of elation to take.
..) just bulb with coils to close had, and he's often the relay contacts, welded to each other, and it helped a small screw driver to unstick them..therefore the housing cover is completely out of the way..)) and neonka at it(in hand) shone in the half meter from the amplifier..such a small ionizing radiation..))
I did not understand Your opinion regarding my question about the existence or absence of radiation from my switching power supply.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by нева » Sun Jan 10, 2016 13:03

Эмилия wrote:I did not understand Your opinion regarding my question about the existence or absence of radiation from my switching power supply.
It seems that Your power supply is quite safe, and fits into the overall picture of the General EM background that in large cities, and quite so high.

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by к-13 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 13:24

нева wrote:
к-13 wrote:Well, the magnetron-it is shielded by the grid cell does not transmit the operating frequency)))
It is clear that reducing the mesh a bit. About shielding;- can be put in the microwave, the cell phone, shut it down not including..) and call on him, if he rings..does the term "shielding" does not fit. And I do not even know whether there are people in Russia who are grounded microwave..)) And without grounding, the iron box podnebenny close to the antenna-transmitter though..and takes over and reduces power, but itself becomes an antenna.))
Interesting You people, downright incorrigible antoptima)))
You know that the shielding mesh are aimed at the narrow frequency band - that's the one with long wave that "resonates" the geometrical dimensions of the cell. It not only prevents the release of energy outside the furnace, it reflects it back inside, thereby increasing efficiency, is used as a reflector, which as You probably know, a few prevents her to perform the functions vneshnepoliticheskoi antenna.
That is, the mesh in a microwave oven is designed for UHF-band, but as not for GSM. You a condom instead of a helmet to use at the construction site, why is there this assumption?

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by СтаниФилмТВ » Sun Jan 10, 2016 13:39

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by Эмилия » Sun Jan 10, 2016 13:47

Comrades, and iron, for example, also have a switching power supply?

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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by нева » Sun Jan 10, 2016 14:00

к-13 wrote:That is a grid in a microwave oven is designed for UHF-band, but as not for GSM.
2.5 GHz processor, oven works..)) and the routers of Wii-Fi working..from 2.5 to 5 GHz, " According to the decision GCCR, the third generation of mobile communications operates at frequencies 2 - 2,1 GHz(C)" Therefore a very controversial issue where GSM and microwave. ))) Or rather in order not to sow panic, microwave radiation is better described as something is not clear for example GSM ..or something else..)) The more GSMом just called the second generation system, and the layman does not need to know what frequencies the system operates..and if you say you are? consumers microwave radiation your brain a little bit irradiated, in order to intelligent or critical thought smaller it had, goodbye global business..))) And with mesh.. Boh with her... and talked..))
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Re: is the increased radiation from the power supply?

Post by к-13 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 14:07

СтаниФилмТВ wrote: 2.5 GHz processor, oven works..)) and the routers of Wii-Fi working..from 2.5 to 5 GHz, "
And the form and strength of the signal compare to the public?
СтаниФилмТВ wrote: moreover, GSM is just the system of the second generation, and the man in the street does not need to know what frequencies the system operates..)) And with mesh.. Boh with her... and talked..))
My phone (for the other I will not argue) operates at a frequency of 900 MHz. The frequency band 890-915 MHz is used to transmit information from the phone to the base station, and 935-960 MHz for feedback (full-duplex mode, that the PTT switch, and the word "welcome" not to use when communicating).
Эмилия wrote:Comrades, and iron, for example, also have a switching power supply?
There is generally no power supply - where the voltage is supplied directly to the heating coil, via a rheostat or thermostat. Perizzite in the village, I am there in this plan is much safer))) However, other hazards will be added (wolves are the same).

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