Biomysh from neurolab.ru

[Алексей Руденко]

Good day to all!!

Bought here such device domestic developments:
http://www.neurolab.ru/ru/menu/products ... _personal/

Directly to optical mouse with USB interface integrated solar cells for removal of photoplethysmography, it then graphs of the frequency heart rate calculated heart rate variability (index Baevsky, etc.), given the interpretation of health status. The device was developed by our Kulibina more than 10 years, but, apparently, commercial success did not - I purchased it directly from the developer, and the price was, to put it mildly, quite reasonable - 1600 rubles.

Is there anyone on the forum experience of using Biomuse or similar device, where indexes of heart rate variability calculated by photoplethysmogram? And the most important question: is there a possibility of heart rate variability rhythm and the frequency spectrum to distinguish between momentary fatigue of the person from chronic? Actually, the device that was purchased. Because one thing - the man is tired at the moment and he just need to sleep, and quite another - when you want to go on vacation for a month to recover. I read a lot of information on the Internet, but so far nothing found.

Developer me directly to this question is not answered, to pull it once again does not want to (he's a man in age).

Thanks in advance for the answer!

[Михаил_]

More like a hidden (not hidden) advertising. Especially from a man with a history of 0 messages on the forum.

If on, then the benefits to me personally is not clear. Everyone of course has their own picture of the world. In my napryazhnoe is true that the monitoring of body without the greatest causes to reduce the ability of self-healing or recovery, drug ways for fixing the problem in the mind (and not only). For this reason, a normal healer quickly deal with the diagnosis not confirmed of. medicine and not fixed on reginah-ultrasound med.cards than fixed.
But I'm afraid this point of view, the man from the office. science to share hard. However, there is almost the whole forum such shares. So apparently is not quite at. Although maybe I do not understand.

[Брэнд]

More like hidden (not hidden) advertising. Especially from a man with a history of 0 messages on the forum.

The thoughts of man, his look, demeanor... or even the materialization of the soul in the body, there is man... his positioning in this world, what should be treated normally.

...benefit to me personally is not clear. Everyone of course has their own picture of the world. ...Although maybe I do not understand.

Of course everyone has their own picture of the world.
The question was not about Your personal benefits from this device, but essentially it works!




The work of the bio-mouse, the question probably should be addressed, Dmitry Shumova.
And to compare this bio-mouse Device with biofeedback on heart rhythm.

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[Дмитрий__]

I don't see much advertising. Need to advertise your forum to organize this type...
In my opinion the device interesting. The readout mechanism of the pulse, probably similar to emWave2. Add more to this gaming software, like the Americans, the Internet support as they have - with forum, newsletter, webinars, dealer network - and you can sell it for comprehensible money , such as those that are designated for a research model on the website.

is There anyone on the forum experience of using Biomuse or similar device, where indexes of heart rate variability calculated by photoplethysmogram?

I only worked with emwave2. And that's what photoplethysmogram - while not precisely understood,

And the most important question: is there a possibility of heart rate variability rhythm and the frequency spectrum to distinguish between momentary fatigue of the person from chronic?

It is possible that an experienced physician can do this. And without experience, or programmatically is hard. If it were easy, Americans would have organized in emwave, they have to practical application, the scent is good.

[к-13]

is there a possibility of the heart rate variability rhythm and the frequency spectrum to distinguish between momentary fatigue of the person from chronic?

A few measurements at different points in time within several days - if the variability varies considerably during the day from good to bad indicators from day to day (there are exceptions - not enough sleep, for example), it is usually fatigue. Well, if the picture is not so hot even at 10-11 am and so for several days, the situation - immediately on vacation or alpha course-sessions/conduit, if it is not possible to break away from work)))

[Брэнд]

...Well, if the picture is not so hot even at 10-11 am and so for several days, the situation - immediately on vacation or alpha course-sessions/conduit, if it is not possible to break away from work)))

I think that is not so simple...
There are "larks", in which the morning and the first half of the day - the period of greatest daily activity is "owls", which the evening peak of activity, and in the morning they go sleepy even if you slept well at night.
Actually, you should look diverse (age, diet, nature of work, lifestyle, priorities...) and to see the person in a certain (long) time to say something reliable about the nature (causes) fatigue. Experience of a specialist is more important than even the specific diagnostics tools.
In the original question can be seen setting a clear diagnosis (medical), and this can be done only by a specialist, devices and programs are only a supporting role...

[Экко]

actually.. there are a bunch of self-made heart rate monitors in t h based on x-ray finger or something else the led light.. you don't have to redo the mouse. I have a bourgeois pdfka where clearly shows how to do it
or the main point in the treatment of indications?

[Дмитрий__]

Yes, in this case, basic signal processing algorithms. It can be quite difficult. I was once involved in processing of heart rate variability - there is no good knowledge of higher mathematics had nothing to do. But I'm not sure that it refers to the case biomuse and emWave2. There is, apparently, the algorithms are simple.

[Экко]

saw their website.. it is strange that this neurolab except biomasi sells nothing.
and in fact - ordinary heart rate monitor from the coupler. algorithms? IMHO a sensible cardiologist will be able to write such