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Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 20:33

Today put this product in the office. Here are the pictures
He folding massage table is nothing special in itself is not. The main feature is vibro-acoustic subwoofers, screwed to it from below.
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Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 21:20

So, what does this thing need. Need it in order to ADD a mind-machine a NEW CHANNEL of INFLUENCE. Namely, in addition to the existing light and sound, and more vibrotactile. Especially good for this purpose is the Novapro 100 and Navigator , have kotoroya 2 audio outputs, one of which you can connect headphones and in the other table. Although any other device (e.g., the inner Pulse) can also be connected via the splitter.
Such a device combining light and sound and tactile effects, sold in the U.S. for quite some time, for example, Sensorium.
http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/america.htm
Interface (brains) for it, by the way, collected photosonix. Now these products are harvested and we have
http://www.disnet.ru/equipment/33/
But brains certainly still have photosonics buy (in one of the photos there is visible the box, brutal forms reminiscent of novapro).
In addition to "brains", there is another high-tech product, which in any need to buy abroad - these are the fibrocavitory (or sometimes called as non-Russian word "transducers]").
This is similar to fibrocavitory we moved to the massage table - turned vibrating table. Actually, not just vibrating because the vibrating devices are now a dime a dozen, and zweckmassiges. This is much more rare item. But more about that in the next report.
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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 21:55

Summershine devices are especially popular in the USA where they are produced in different types (even zweckmassiges dog's Mat).
There are specialized websites dedicated vibrozvonok therapy. In particular, this direction is supported and known to the visitors of this forum audio-the healer JEFFREY THOMPSON. According to him, his music is ideal for playback through summershine device. Especially for this purpose recommended a series of PSI-PRO (the site presents out of it drives the "Evolution of sound" and "Celestial harmonics", had even sold 2 CD's "Music for self-regulation" 1-4).
Probably, the tables are made to order the Thompson is better suited for listening (potrjahivanie :D ) of his music, but because of the large size and weight they are difficult to bring. Although preliminary order it is possible to consider and such variant.
It was therefore decided to only bring the active elements, i.e. fibrocavitory. And the table here.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 22:38

Now directly on vibrosolution.
They are produced of several types, and one has even been discussed on this forum
viewtopic.php?t=1294&p=90560
(This is the last device should have been called vibro-acoustic speaker because of the bass frequency spectrum used in vibroacoustic therapy, it is not very suitable).
Fibrocavitory who work in our table (2 pieces), have the unique (at this time) features that is unique for vibrosauna: they reproduce vibration - up to 800 Hz. That is, the vibration up to 800 Hz you will feel whole body. It starts with the same range of vibration in this model - from 20 Hz. This is a real working frequency, which I personally checked the table powerfully vibrating at 20 Hz. In principle, the unit can operate at 15 Hz, but unstable. There are more expensive models that work stable 10 Hz.
As for the range above 800 Hz, then it will be reproduced as a normal sound, ie when listening to music via this table you will not only feel the body but to fully hear with their ears (unless you prefer to wear headphones).

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 22:47

the same salt you my secret... with you to develop a free prototype :)

in General long been thinking how to make something like a vibrating mouth guard... ie the cap is inserted in the mouth Shimada, jaw wound belt (probably will look like a freak with that thing) to not decompress on the mouthpiece is vibration type vibrator of the phone... in short this machine type Jew's harp with sessions

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Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 23:14

About how all this can be purchased, ordered and installed.
You can purchase and order either the whole table or fibrocavitory separately. They can independently install the house on any suitable bed or even the chair Assembly instructions are in the manual.
The table is folded in half (the subwoofers can not be removed), which is convenient for transportation. In addition, included is a bag for moving. Size when folded - approximately 70 to 100 cm, along with the subwoofers - pounds 18.
To nourish fibrocavitory from ordinary household musical amplifier that supports 4 Ohm impedance and a power output (preferably) 100-150 watts per channel. Of the currently available I would recommend the Yamaha A-S500.
Theoretically, you can try car subwoofer amplifier - they have good power, but probably lose in sound quality and frequency range. They can be combined with cheaper models vibrosolution, for example - Aura - which is quite acceptable to work with a mind-machine (if you do not listen to music). It will make the end product more accessible, comparable quality effects in the range up to 200 Hz. We will work in this direction.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Tue Mar 19, 2013 23:16

ZOMBIE
something like a vibro-Capa...
Yes, the idea is interesting. Probably, dentists would be interested to relieve stress from the customers.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by ЗОМБИ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 0:02

Дмитрий__ wrote:dentists would be interested in
why only dentists, see http://dpshop.ru/product_info.php?cPath ... cts_id=422
once this thing works, it means the cap needs in ASCS to enter... I guess :)

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by АМТ » Thu Mar 21, 2013 18:07

Дмитрий__ wrote:About how all this can be purchased, ordered and installed.
You can purchase and order either the whole table or fibrocavitory separately. They can independently install the house on any suitable bed or even the chair Assembly instructions are in the manual.
And prices-which one?

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:07

The price of such a table 32000 RUB you Can go to the office and to look, to try. In the U.S. the price of similar articles - from $2200. But there are tables better I guess. Cheaper we offer.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ахилес » Thu Aug 22, 2013 13:21

Vibropitateli separately
Price: 10 000 rubles

it's for 1 or both fibrocellular???

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ольга К » Fri Sep 06, 2013 16:32

Ахилес wrote:Vibropitateli separately
Price: 10 000 rubles

it's for 1 or both fibrocellular???
This price is for one transmitter.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ашот Васильевич » Mon Oct 07, 2013 18:45

It is not entirely clear. Just need two transmitters? One per channel? Or just one and it includes two channels?

All thing must be powerful using them to listen to recordings of Tibetan bowls...

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ашот Васильевич » Wed Oct 09, 2013 16:47

The transmitters are generally still sold or not?

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Wed Oct 09, 2013 20:51

Sold,are in stock.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Wed Oct 09, 2013 21:54

For vibroacoustic therapy is sufficient a single transmitter. Because it uses the frequency range (see article), the stereo effect is quite weak. But the cutoff frequency of subwoofer output of the amplifier, to be connected in case one transmitter is much lower than the maximum vibration frequency of the device (800 Hz), that is, its potential will be realized completely. In addition, in this case you will need an additional amplifier. So it's easier to connect two transmitters - one for each channel of the amplifier.

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Post by Ашот Васильевич » Thu Oct 10, 2013 15:28

So in case of connection of each channel transmitter vibroacoustics therapy will be the place to be?
That is, it does not obyazatelno use the subwoofer output, enough for left and right channels?
Better than siting in a couch on the right and on the left?
Turns out you need & NB on 4 outputs. Two for pridatchenko and two for MIDs and highs?

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Sat Oct 12, 2013 13:42

The amplifier will fit, and with single output per channel. In the case of this brand of vibroprotection to divide the signal spectrum is not necessary, because they reproduce almost the full range up to 17 kHz. Just signal up to 800 Hz will be converted to a vibration, and anything above that to be perceived as natural sound.
But the extra 2 outputs not hurt, fortunately, almost all the amplifiers of the respective class they are. It can be connected to ordinary speakers. But note that vibropitateli is a lot of power, and in the case of an apartment building possible complaints from the neighbors, because you add as much again for the additional 2 channels.
I have tried to give maximum 100 watt just 2 vibropitateli installed a massage table. This, of course, not working volume - the table jumps as Neal esgena horse, rattling all the joints. But when the top falls man pounds 120, it is much better...
Should have in the areas of maximum load on the table or the couch, i.e., where lie blades and buttocks.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ашот Васильевич » Tue Oct 15, 2013 16:56

Thanks for the advice.

Look for a suitable bunk & for these transmitters.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Ашот Васильевич » Tue Oct 15, 2013 17:09

I honestly still have questions.

What is the diameter of the platform, which is attached to the couch and what is the diameter at the cap "of the mushroom"?

What from the property where between the platform and the cap.
What bolts (under which key head)? They come in the kit?
What thickness should be founded on the basis of a couch on which is mounted a platform? It can be plywood 12 mm?
So the photo is not clear.

I apologize that progruzil, but I would like to find a couch suitable for a normal installation of transmitters and as a consequence to receive the highest quality of sound and sensations.

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue Oct 15, 2013 18:38

Ашот Васильевич wrote:Honestly still have questions.

What is the diameter of the platform, which is attached to the couch and what is the diameter at the cap "of the mushroom"?

What from the property where between the platform and the cap.
What bolts (under which key head)? They come in the kit?
What thickness should be founded on the basis of a couch on which is mounted a platform? It can be plywood 12 mm?
So the photo is not clear.

I apologize that progruzil, but I would like to find a couch suitable for a normal installation of transmitters and as a consequence to receive the highest quality of sound and sensations.


Diameter at platform 9 cm. Between the platform and the cap 4 cm Plywood on the couch in the office 5mm.. Image

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Екатерина Ш » Wed May 27, 2015 14:42

Dmitry__want to book the table in a complete package. How to place order? Is it possible to choose the model of the table?

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Re: Vibroacoustic table

Post by Дмитрий__ » Wed May 27, 2015 18:03

Now there was only one fibrocellular. If it's all right, I'll send you a private message with the cost calculation.

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