Diagnostic system 100 Lira

[Андрей Патрушев]

ZOMBIE
Such film I saw at a hunting store, like, to thaw frozen. Something around 350 rubles (2x1,5m).

[Михаил_]

Lira awesome thing for quick tests on the stream (for example at the entrance to work, the state of stress or after drinking, etc.), walking real fast, reproducibly, accurately and so on....
For some complex games with yourself, if you really want to visualize may fit, but it has to be elaborated separately and independently. A direct analogy of the state of the reflex zones and the data captured by Lira I own tests found, ie two different, though closely related indicators.
Thus in General come out different things - accurate measurement by the method of narrow sharpened on to something, but very reliable, or feature analysis process (as with folem).
Ie, if you need some feedback - it's GDV, or a La Folle methods, but more detailed.
I for example have a couple of devices made for sujok diagnostics(bought in sujok Academy dopolnitelno not sure if they are alive, and the Academy after the events shook up) and one of them slabinsky (easily determined with Putorana removal, take the readings of points or not). But there removed MANY POINTS that swelling can. There are a lot more modern bells and whistles, making measurement of such near-Folle techniques are well repeatable.
But imagine 120 points from the entire body to remove... more they need to correctly identify
But then very detailed indicators are much more informative than the usual fol, especially for those who know a basis in theory, i.e. only for the pros.
It is much easier to learn to read of GDV-grams, although this is art and shamanism still.
As the doctor who worked with GDV long time (comparing the results of diagnosis of klassicheskimi methods - CT, ultrasound, blood, x-rays, etc.), GDV provides awesome accuracy, but the diagnostician should be taught to see two years.
The moral...
LIRA is very useful, it is a pity that not massively implemented, where you need exactly one thing to measure and has developed a methodology or its really for a reasonable amount of time to implement.
For some procedures associated with the creation of feedback for yourself... personally, I went a long time ago to the thought that devices still do not need.
Easier to learn to read unbiased what you long to do the same through the device.
Lyre take it where you need large quantities (for many people) or regularly (a few people but constantly) to remove certain basic physiological parameters according to the available methods. Irreplaceable thing (LIRA). Somewhere abroad, it could be effectively implemented, there is a real problem with effective drug and other tests and their cost, one of my friends from Canada, became interested some time ago(very long personal conversation told him that there is such a thing), but realizing the complexity of the implementation process - very cool.
For productions where you need to remove the facto risk due to the inadequacy of the behavior of the operator (even for sales forces, telephone call center, for example), LYRA definitely irreplaceable.
But, unfortunately, pushing such things it is a thankless thing, and apparently have not yet been concerned cheloveka(although it could be easy to prove business efficiency almost everywhere may come to mind). Typical story, I know a lot of brilliant developments as quietly lying somewhere.<

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Andrei Patrushev thanks for the replies, a few clarifications and questions

1. As possible myself yourself measurements to evidence is not weakened?

2. clarification

do not understand the Question. Locally measured intensity of the blood-lymph current. Of course, these readings will vary after exercise, but to evaluate them from the point of view of accuracy will be possible only after serious testing methods.

Wanted to do something to evaluate the accuracy of impact... such as a minor injury received or not... etc.

3.

Computer noise not suggesting, I mean instruments such as kWh, etc.

Mobile leads?

4.

Foll Method is not invasive, but a little playable.

Malovisherskiy?? – you have to be a Pro to results adequate to remove?

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Such task – you need the device for hardware diagnostics... preferably full and adequate...
Monitor for the start of the limited number of people, in the future the circle will expand (second coming Bolotov )
Lyra, as I understand it, for this purpose (comprehensive monitoring) is not suitable?

Michael_ tell me what for the above tasks it is better to use... Voll? (it is possible to make (those skillful hands) homemade Voll, only the results will have to score in the tables in the manual, and even the table is not present, by yourself will have to do)

[Андрей Патрушев]

ZOMBIE
1. To me this method is not known.
2. Need a proven method.
3. No.
4. Like, I saw somewhere devices for self-diagnosis and treatment it is for Voll.

the Problem is this – the right tool for hardware diagnostics... preferably full and adequate... Monitor to start a limited number of people, in the future the circle will expand (second coming Bolotov )Lira, as I understand it, for this purpose (comprehensive monitoring) is not suitable?

LIRA just suitable for monitoring (approximately at the level of the General analysis of blood + a couple of indicators).

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4. Like, I saw somewhere devices for self-diagnosis and treatment it is for Voll.

Yes pribora I found, only they cost (device + software diagnostics not only by Voll, there's a bunch -- IMHO, one method, different analysis) fifty dollars no less -- while I myself have seen in real life a device made of a scapegoat of electrodes and cells for homeopathy (brass disc with machined cylinders), plus a homemade table in Excel -- red price of 5 rubles...

here zadumyvaeshsya choby to take want more detail and better accuracy and denyuh less to give

and monitoring of blood and vegetative is already ogogo... sorry not to specify... boom thinking to solve

by the way, once again, the method of self-diagnosis lyre -- take a video camera and sent her on Board the Lyra, don't look at the scoreboard of the lyre, holds the electrode and remove the data from all the necessary points, watch the video process and the results of the diagnostics.... it doesn't work?

[Михаил_]

All fol invasive. It corrects the measured point is quite significantly by dimension. Electronic versions on the microcontroller - less.
Lira absolutely no effect on the subject, but the basic technique, only a few points, gives a detailed picture of the sly and the total base state.
I specifically was trying to go for the same one hundred points that sujok tester, to compare pictures.... the conclusion from this comparison under the lyre to do your technique, and that there is a "basic assessment", not to take her local distortions meridianow and other fun things, i.e. two graphs on the same points quite excellent. Extremely useful for specific applications. Fast, simple and beautiful.Operator train - 5 minutes and an hour to control and "to fill the hand".
For esoteric applications closer to normal GDV camera with the ability to change the exposure and the horizontal screen (to film to put you can). of course digital.
As long as you master the deciphering of her photos just passes the time for which you can learn beseparate diagnosis
Instruments necessary to document the measurement results for the average person(to give an appointment, etc.), but for myself.... this is IMHO just different tasks.
From the known appliances in addition to simplicity, repeatability and noninvasiveness the Lira is awesome plus she medpribor. Everything else is usually there (one of my "sujok testers" has a certificate but Ukrainian). But this advantage is not about personal use.

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Michael_
the fact that to master anything, BUT, IMHO, any learning process consists of three components -- Theory - and-Practice - Control
the actual devices need for self-control because there is the Gora, who knows if that will correct error, and I can head and share anything with aseparate diagnosis...

[Андрей Патрушев]

by the way, once again, the method of self-diagnosis lyre -- take a video camera and sent her on Board the Lyra, don't look at the scoreboard of the lyre, holds the electrode and remove the data from all the necessary points, watch the video process and the results of the diagnostics.... it doesn't work?

I repeat: this inability has nothing to do with the mental effects, it is purely capacitive electrical effect.

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understood, all thanks for answers